Surgeon General’s Warning: Medical school may kill your child. →

Cheryl lost her son Sean to suicide in medical school. Just a few months ago. Her only child. Cheryl didn’t know that medical students were at high risk of suicide—until her son was dead. Nobody warned her.

Sean Petro Medical Student Suicide

Rhonda lost her daughter Kaitlyn to suicide in medical school. Unable to recuperate from the pain of her daughter’s suicide, Rhonda died by suicide one year later. Rhonda didn’t know that medical students were at high risk of suicide—until her daughter was dead. Nobody warned her.

Kaitlyn Elkins Medical Student Suicide

Michele lost her only son Kevin to suicide in medical school last year. Just 3 weeks before he was to graduate. Instead of celebrating her son’s graduation, she attended his funeral. Michele didn’t know that medical students were at high risk of suicide—until her son was dead. Nobody warned her.

Kevin Dietl Medical Student Suicide

I was severely depressed in medical school. I lost both classmates I dated in med school to suicide. Suicide is an occupational hazard for medical students and physicians. Recently, I started a support group for parents who lost their children to suicide during medical training. They all wonder why nobody warned them of the hazards of a medical education. If someone had warned them maybe they could have saved their children’s life.

Cigarettes, cigars, chewing tobacco all come with a Surgeon General’s Warning. Why not medical school? If medical school came with a Surgeon General’s Warning, what would it be? I posed this question to medical professionals. Here’s what they told me.

“I’m an oncologist and this is a package of cigarettes and these cause cancer and you can read that right on the side of the box. It says Surgeon General’s Warning: Smoking causes lung cancer and there are a few other diseases that it causes and they are listed here. And I have a warning for people who may want to go into medicine. This would be my Surgeon General’s Warning to those people: Surgeon General’s Warning: Medical training and the practice of medicine can result in the loss of moral behaviors and expectations. This condition is termed demoralization and can be fatal.” ~ Dawn Lemanne, M.D.

“Medical school may cause poor self care, suicidal ideation, and will complicate pregnancy.” ~ Stephanie Waggel, M.D.

“Medical school could kill your child. [It’s] demands are severely underestimated. Ensure that your child has the ability to do this. Do not ideally assume they are smart and talented and send them off. They may die. Many have.” ~ Andrew Chang, medical student

“Protect your child as they enter this dangerous minefield. 1) Remind them that you love them unconditionally. (No one will be telling them that for many years). 2) Always tell them it’s okay to cry. 3) Call me anytime you want. 4) Venting is vital. 5) You are beautiful.” ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.

“Medical school attendance may lead to any of the following: isolation, sleep deprivation, demoralization, stress, anxiety, obesity, alcoholism, drug use, abuse, bullying, emotional detachment, poor relationships, divorce, bankruptcy, sexual harassment, disillusionment, compassion fatigue, self-neglect, unethical behavior, mental fog, chronic conditions, preterm labor, suicide . . .” ~ Maili Velez-Dalla Tor, M.D.

“It will separate you from the people you love, prevent proper bodily functions such as bowel and bladder, cause extreme guilt that you are not doing everything right, and lead to loss of life.” ~ Wendy Schilling, M.D.

“Hypertension, diabetes . . .” ~ Lisa Splitstoesser, M.D.

“Extreme fatigue, denigration of self-worth, trauma, chronic illness, and suck the joy and passion right out of you.” ~ Ana Maria Sierra, Ph.D.

“[these health conditions are] Due to the blatant disregard for your own mental and physical wellbeing. It [the abuse] is perpetrated by your supervisors and administrators while you hold the weight of the world on your shoulders.” ~ Sangita Pillai, M.D.

“Surgeon General’s Warning: Residency may cause a psychotic break in previously healthy people.” ~ Kayla Luhrs, M.D.

“Is likely to cause loss of compassion, libido, health, wellness, sleep, close relationships, and overall joie de vivre. Apply at your own risk.” ~ David Kwon, D.O.

Informed consent is required in medicine. Everyone deserves to be informed of not only the health risks of using tobacco; they also must be informed of the health hazards inherent in the medical profession. Do you agree?

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Pamela Wible, M.D., reports on human rights violations in medicine. She is the author of Physician Suicide Letters—Answered. Her TEDMED talk “Why doctors kill themselves” addresses the hidden medical culture of bullying, hazing, and abuse that endangers physicians—and patients. She hosts biannual retreats for medical students and physicians to help them heal from the trauma of medical training. Depressed Struggling?  Contact Dr. Wible for help. Video by GeVe.

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Our town lost 8 doctors to suicide. Here’s why. (Dinner & documentary with Dr. Wible) →

Jumping off hospital rooftops, hanging themselves in janitorial closets, overdoing on drugs—our doctors are dying by suicide. Why? 

Join us Friday, November 11 at Tsunami Books in Eugene, Oregon, for a marvelous Mediterranean dinner to celebrate Dr. Wible’s book, Physician Suicide Letters—Answered, and take a sneak peek at the forthcoming documentary on our physician suicide crisis.

Two-time Emmy winner Robyn Symon has investigated the hidden medical crisis in her film, DO NO HARM. In this poignant preview, you’ll meet medical students and families of physicians touched by suicide who come out of the shadows to expose the silent epidemic and the hidden medical culture of bullying, hazing, and abuse that kills doctors—and patients.

Join Dr. Wible, a local physician and national leader on physician suicide and human rights violations in medicine, for an unforgettable evening. View her TEDMED talk here and DO NO HARM trailer.

Enjoy lively conversation while feasting on an organic Mediterranean dinner catered by Park Street Cafe featuring handmade dolmas, spanakopita, hummus, baba ganoush, tapanade, bruschetta, crostinis, quinoa tabouleh, unusual one-of-a-kind veggie platter, assorted fun drinks, and more. Please RSVP here so we’ll have enough food for you.

Plus grab your autographed copy of Dr. Wible’s latest banned book (yes, she’s written two banned books), Physician Suicide Letters—Answered. Now—for the first time released to the public—read private letters and last words from our doctors who could no longer bear the pain of an abusive medical system. What you don’t know about medical training and culture can kill you. Join Dr. Wible and the Eugene community for an evening behind the white coat and into the mind, heart, and soul of our doctors—and get all your questions answered. Listen to KLCC interview about event.

When: Friday, November 11 at 7:00 pm

Where: Tsunami Books (2585 Willamette St.)

What: DO NO HARM film preview (30-minute film and book signing)

Click here to RSVP 

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Doctor’s secret: how I quit my job, lost 125 pounds & had a 4-day orgasm →

“Two years ago I did stand in front of this camera and I explained that I had arrived at Breitenbush and I had experienced a four-day orgasm. [October, 2014] I just experienced a four-day orgasm at Breitenbush Hot Springs at Dr. Pamela Wible’s retreat. [Fast forward October, 2016 and 125 pound lighter!] So how can I not come back for more of that? So since the week of the four-day orgasm, I left my job, I opened my own clinic with my husband. Our life is totally different than it used to be. I’m healthy. I’m happy. I’m a better doctor.”  ~ Keely Wheeler, D.O.

“I’ve known for my whole life that I wanted to open an ideal medical clinic (I just didn’t know that’s what we were gonna call it) and I have been fighting against corporate medical America since I was twelve.” ~ Rachel Brennan, D.O.

“Corporate medicine has sucked the soul out of American doctors for too long and if you are enraged, you’re right! The requirements of corporate medicine for doctors to see more patients in shorter amounts of time is not only unethical, it should be illegal. It is your responsibility as a physician, as a human being, to stand up for what is good and right and ethical in the treatment and care of your patients.”  ~ Kat Lopez, M.D.

“I was given permission for the first time in my life.” ~  Rachel Brennan, D.O.

“Give yourself permission to be an adult and live your dream.”  ~ Juliet Asher, M.D.   

“I was so empowered here and I was just unleashed. I was made free.” ~ Rachel Brennan, D.O.

“One year ago when I came here I was on the verge of ending my medical career forever.” ~ Yami Lancaster. D.O.

“What comes in here is a big lie that we have been told from day one regarding the impossibility of doing our own thing, going out alone as a practitioner, or starting our own business.” ~ Kat Lopez, M.D.

“We are living under a set of bullsh*t rules.”  ~ Yami Lancaster. D.O.

“I remember my boss telling me several months ago with all the new government regulations coming down that we just need to accept it and learn to fit all this into our current workday.” ~ Kelley Stahl, M.D.

“if you’re a doctor or a patient or a medical student, I just want to let you know that you’ve been lied to.” ~ Maili Velez-Dalla Tor, M.D.

“And we’ve been told very clearly over and over again from the beginning before we were ever empowered to think about it that it was impossible, that we could not make a living in that way. That is a blatant lie and Dr. Pamela Wible has from the ground up built a life and now a movement of doctors who can show you that, yes, like Joe and Mary down the street running their own nail salon, hair salon, people without even a high school diploma can run successful small businesses, have the relationship-based clientele that they’ve been longing for, feed their families, and be wonderful members of their community. It’s not rocket science and your education, training, and now corporate positions have disempowered you systematically and it is time to connect with your inner rage and frustration, stand up, and refuse to take it any longer,” ~ Kat Lopez, M.D.

“I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore.” ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.   

“We have a problem.” ~ David Kwon, D.O.

“The current system is abusive. It hurts patients. It hurts doctors and it kills us.” ~ Wendy Schilling, M.D.

“You should exercise more. Do more yoga.” ~ Maili Velez-Dalla Tor, M.D.

“When’s the last time you did something healthy that you told your patients to do? When’s the last time you went for a walk? When’s the last time you did yoga?” ~ Wendy Schilling, M.D.

“There’s no yoga or amount of exercise in the world that is going to remove a bad situation.”  ~ Maili Velez-Dalla Tor, M.D.

“We’ve sat on our butts, all of us, and we’ve just taken it.” ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.

“I think it was like a 90-hour work week so it was minimum wage so I thought that was just the way it was going to be.”  ~ Lisa Shea Roberts, F.N.P.

“We’re slaves.” ~ Maili Velez-Dalla Tor, M.D.

“I was actually told that I was too thorough in the 10-minute appointments so it wasn’t working and I was looking at bank teller jobs.” ~ Lisa Shea Roberts, F.N.P.

“It is impossible to provide good care within 15 or 20 minutes.” ~ Taylor Brana, medical student

“I went into medical school really thinking, ‘Yeah! I’m gonna be a healer!’” ~ Sara Modlin, medical student

“I had this ideal image of just being a relationship-based individual wanting to help anyone who came my way and just providing healing. And then I come to medical school and I sit in a chair all day and I’m told a bunch of information. I am not actually learning. I’m just told to memorize all of this stuff.”  ~ Taylor Brana, medical student

“You’re allowed to be happy.” ~ Sara Modlin, medical student

“Please send this to other doctors and let them know that they are allowed to be happy doctors. They are allowed to spend time with their patients and laugh and hug them and tell them that they love them. That’s okay.” ~ Yami Lancaster. D.O.

“This miracle called Dr. Pamela Wible snuck into my life three years ago and said, ‘Yah, come on. Join us!’” ~ Ana Maria Sierra, Ph.D.

“You can change things one person at a time. And that’s what Breitenbush has taught me. Everybody can change the world and Pamela Wible is the one person who made me start to believe that. She is crazy enough to make you believe . . .”  ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.

“Pamela has demonstrated through her books and all her crazy accomplishments that each of us has the power to change the world.” ~ Cindy Lay, premedical high school student

“She has and she’s done it one person, one doctor, exponentially has spread amongst all these people and makes you believe . . .”   ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.

“The people who change the world are the ones who are crazy enough to think they can.” ~ Cindy Lay, premedical high school student

“Somebody has to light that fire and she’s done it. One doctor has made us all believe we can change the world.”  ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.

“You can just do it! It doesn’t matter your age. It doesn’t matter what experience you have. It doesn’t matter if you have a license or not.” ~ Cindy Lay, premedical high school student

“So start Googling Pamela Wible. Start reading her blog posts and ultimately sign up to come through the telecourse and the retreat at Breitenbush where you can truly heal your own soul from some of the ravages that the medical system as wrought upon you and allow you to become the healer, practitioner, and business owner that you always dreamed of being.” ~ Kat Lopez, M.D.

“One doctor at a time can take back our career.” ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.

So whether you are a pre-clerkship student an you are completely overwhelmed by the amount of material you need to memorize or you are on your rotations and you’re secretly sneaking off to cry in the bathroom because you are being abused . . .” ~ Rebecca Coish, M.D.

“There is hope. Don’t feel bad because you don’t like your job. Don’t feel like there’s something wrong with you. The problem is that you are not living your authentic life. Let your light shine bright as you want it to be. Come to Breitenbush and be a naked vegetarian hippie with us for a few days.” ~ Yami Lancaster. D.O.

“For anyone who is concerned about attending a vegetarian hippie naked retreat at Breitenbush, I’m not a vegetarian. I thought I was going to be hungry. I have not been hungry. I feel healthy. My chronic headache is gone. I’ve been pooping well without my fish oil probiotic.” ~ Kelley Stahl, M.D.

“Come here. Be with Dr. Wible who is the Martin Luther King of medicine and get out of your little slave ship. Jump ship. Swim to shore.” ~ Dawn Lemanne, M.D.

“There are other doctors in this world who are not going to drag me down, but literally, emotionally, and physically (as you guys did) you lifted me up and that was so refreshing to me.” ~ Stephanie Waggel, M.D.

“I had set my vacation up for this particular year ahead of time because I knew that I was possibly coming to this retreat so I got someone to cover my Epic inbasket . . .” Christina Ma, M.D. 

“If you find yourself in a little cubicle swearing at a computer most of your day, that’s not medicine.” ~ Nancy Noyce, M.D.

“You may be in this job where you think it’s gonna get better or you think maybe if I just worked harder that I would be able to make this work. It ain’t gonna happen! Like if you’re gonna be busting your ass and working that hard you need to get out on your own and do it for you, do it for your patients. Right now all you’re doing is supporting all the suits that are in your corporation and they’re driving their BMW and whatever else. The people who generate revenue in medicine are the physicians, the healers, the nurses, the people who are working with patients. All you are doing is funding a salary for a suit who’s main job is to boss you around and tell you how to practice. Now tell me how does that make any sense at all? You need to get off of your stupid EMR. I know you’re charting. It’s like midnight right now. Or probably your husband is bringing you fast food to the clinic because you couldn’t make it home. You need to just shut the EMR down. Go home. Write your letter of resignation and go open your ideal clinic NOW.” ~ Keely Wheeler, D.O.

“If you are really scared to open your own practice this is what you do. Right before you get here (you can do it before you fly on the plane but if you are really scared pull of into the gas station right before Breitenbush) write a little email or letter to your boss and give them your 30-day notice. Then you might feel really panicky so quickly drive down into Breitenbush and you’ll be met by the most supportive group of doctors and health care providers that you can even imagine meeting. They’ll inspire you to open your own clinic. They will show you exactly how to do it.” ~ Kayla Luhrs, M.D.

“I beg you, please come here. It will be the best thing that you ever do for your entire life. Please, please, please come here.”  ~ Annmarie Ray, M.D.

Okay! Let’s recap: 3 steps to quit your job

1) Write your letter of resignation at this Oregon gas station. 

2) Soak in the hot springs (as you plan your dream job). 

3) Celebrate with your new best friends! 

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Enjoy the benefits: 1) Lose 125 pounds on the “I love my job” diet. 2) Eat and poop normally. 3) Your chronic headaches disappear. 4) No more charting on the EMR at midnight. 5) No more sneaking into bathroom at work to cry. 6) Have a four-day orgasm. Are you ready? 

Mark your calendar for 2017!

Spring retreat: May 2-6

Summer retreat: August 27-31

Fall retreat: October 15-19

To get on the list,  contact Dr. Wible now.

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Pamela Wible, M.D., is a solo doc in her ideal clinic designed entirely by her patients. She loves inspiring others to open their ideal clinics too! Grab your free guide to launching your ideal clinic.

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When someone says doctor, do you think old white guy? Tell the truth. →

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A Delta flight attendant is looking for a doctor during a recent in-flight medical emergency. When Dr. Tamika Cross volunteers to help the unresponsive passenger seated in front of her, the flight attendant tells her, “Oh no sweetie put your hand down, we are looking for actual physicians or nurses or some type of medical personnel, we don’t have time to talk to you.” The crew continues to call for a physician until an older white guy shows up. Dr. Cross apparently does not look like a doctor. Neither do the nine women physicians who share similar stories here. So what do doctors look like on airplanes? 

Maybe this should be Delta’s announcement: ”We have a medical emergency. Is there a tall, gray-haired, white man on the plane?”

A female surgeon in a white coat introduces herself to her patient as Dr. Smith and completes her preoperative exam. She explains all the risks of the surgery, then asks for questions. The patient says, “Can you get me some ice? When will the doctor be here? I want to talk to him.” Dr. Smith apparently does not look like a doctor even when dressed like a doctor inside a hospital. So what do doctors look like inside of hospitals? 

Facts:

* When a male medical student and a female doctor enter a patient room, the male is frequently assumed to be the doctor and the female is the nurse or assistant.

* Female physicians are frequently mistaken for nurses, lab techs, food service, janitors, hospital transport, and candy stripers. Even after introducing themselves in proper attire with name badges and stethoscopes patients actually ask these women to toast their bread or change their diapers. 

* The darker the doctor’s skin, the more likely she is assumed to be housekeeping or a cafeteria worker. The lighter the skin, the more frequently she is assumed to be the nurse.

Don’t get upset with me. I’m just the messenger sharing the truth about life in a patriarchal medical model. And yes, discrimination is worse for those with darker skin.

So what do doctors look like?

I asked Dr. Google. I went incognito on Chrome, typed “doctor,” and pressed images. I analyzed the first 100 photos. Here are the results:

Male doctors 74% (66% of practicing physicians are male)

Female doctors 26% (33% of practicing physicians are female)

White male doctors 59%

White female doctors 18%

Black male doctors 7%

Black female doctors* 3% (2% of practicing physicians are black women)

Little white boys dressed as doctors  2%   

*2 of the 3 black female doctors were Dr. Cross

Google images exposes society’s most harmful stereotypes. In this case it skews the lack of diversity in medicine and reinforces the notion that doctor = white male. Public opinion is heavily influenced by media images. Female physicians are underrepresented on Google images as are dark-skinned women physicians. Two of the 3 black women physicians in the first 100 images were Dr. Tamika Cross. If Dr. Cross were not in the news, there would just be one black woman represented.

Meanwhile 2% of images were of little light-skinned boys dressed up as doctors. No little girls dressed up as doctors. No little dark-skinned girl doctors popped up either. In fact, if Dr. Tamika Cross were not in the news, the number of white boys dressed up as doctors would exceed the number of grown black women physicians.

Good thing Dr. Tamika Cross is reminding us of all the underrepresented doctors out there. Reality check: Half of all medical school graduates are now women. More than half of all obstetricians are female. A whopping 85% of all Ob/gyn residents are women and 75% of all pediatricians-in-training are women.

Next time you’re in the hospital, don’t ask the dark-skinned woman in the white coat for a cup of coffee. She’s busy taking care of your newborn. Got a medical emergency on a plane? Let’s hope the doctor below can get past the flight attendant to assist you.

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Yep! The face of medicine is changing.

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Pamela Wible, M.D., is a family physician dedicated to eradicating the widespread human rights violations in medicine. She is author of Physician Suicide Letters—Answered.

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Female physicians told to sit down, shut up, and get out of the way during emergencies as patients nearly die →

It’s true. Man nearly dies on plane because crew didn’t believe black woman was doctor. The medical fiasco on Delta airlines has now gone viral after a Facebook post by Tamika Cross, M.D., the physician who was turned away from caring for an unresponsive passenger. Tamika joins a long list of female physicians who have experienced the same discrimination. Meet them here. In their own words . . .

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Tamika Cross, M.D. ~ OB-GYN Chief Resident

“I was on Delta flight DL945 and someone 2 rows in front of me was screaming for help. Her husband was unresponsive. I naturally jumped into Doctor mode as no one else was getting up. Unbuckle my seatbelt and throw my tray table up and as I’m about to stand up, flight attendant says, ‘everyone stay calm, it’s just a night terror, he is alright.’ I continue to watch the scene closely. A couple mins later he is unresponsive again and the flight attendant yells ‘call overhead for a physician on board.’ I raised my hand to grab her attention. She said to me, ‘oh no sweetie put your hand down, we are looking for actual physicians or nurses or some type of medical personnel, we don’t have time to talk to you.’ I tried to inform her that I was a physician but I was continually cut off by condescending remarks. Then overhead they paged ‘any physician on board please press your button.’ I stare at her as I go to press my button. She said, “oh wow you’re an actual physician?” I reply yes. She said ‘let me see your credentials. What type of Doctor are you? Where do you work? Why were you in Detroit?’ (Please remember this man is still in need of help and she is blocking my row from even standing up while bombarding me with questions). I respond ‘OBGYN, work in Houston, in Detroit for a wedding, but believe it or not they DO HAVE doctors in Detroit. Now excuse me so I can help the man in need.’ Another ‘seasoned’ white male approaches the row and says he is a physician as well. She says to me ‘thanks for your help but he can help us, and he has his credentials.’ (Mind you he hasn’t shown anything to her. Just showed up and fit the ‘description of a doctor’). I stay seated. Mind blown. Blood boiling . . . Supervisor verified that with me afterwards. In emergency, they never ask to show credentials. This could have been life or death. We didn’t know if he had a pulse or anything!”  

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Kadijah Ray, M.D. ~ Anesthesiologist

“In response to the horrific treatment of Dr. Tamika Cross on Delta Airlines! I’ve received that same treatment on 2 different flights while trying to help people in distress. They passed me up for all whites. A female pharmacist and nurse. And a male MD who I believe was something like radiology. I can’t remember exactly his specialty but I remember him telling them, ‘trust me you want her to help before me’ when I told him I was Anesthesia. And no, I ‘don’t have my credentials with me.’ You wouldn’t allow me to carry that on! Would far exceed your weight and size requirements.” 

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Trupti Shah M.D. ~ Emergency Medicine

“On an Egypt Air overnight flight from Cairo to JFK, the lady seated in front of me was having difficulty breathing. I heard the commotion but did not understand the conversation since it was in Arabic. I asked if I could help and identified myself as a doctor. I was told by the male head flight attendant to sit down. They then announced overhead asking for medical help. I got up again but was ignored. A male cardiologist, from NY, who was fluent in Arabic offered assistance and was immediately ushered to the woman. He noticed that I was trying to help but was not allowed. While they went to get him the medical kit on board, we spoke. He had trained at my hospital. As soon as he was handed the medical kit, he immediately gave it to me but the flight attendant tried to take it back. He had to intervene in order for me to help the woman; he translated. The woman had started taking Amoxicillin given to her for a sore throat and developed a rash, itchy throat and shortness of breath. I checked her blood pressure and lungs. Then I gave her Prednisone, Benadryl, and Pepcid from my carry-on (all of which I carry with me when I travel abroad.) She felt better after 30 minutes. An hour later, the meals were served. I had reserved a vegetarian meal but when I requested it, the same male flight attendant told me that ‘you people always lie.’ He argued and refused to believe me. He asked for proof and I showed him my printed flight itinerary. He then brought me a completely burnt tray.”

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Jessica Kiss, D.O. ~ Family Medicine Chief Resident 

“Same thing happened to me on the side of the freeway. Car overturned, glass in head, pouring blood. People questioned me as I ran over in horror as they kept moving him around to check the wound. I say ‘I’m a doctor. Please lay him down. Someone keep his neck still. Someone hold pressure on the wound.’ The other lady on scene tells me to prove it! Go away, lady, I’m trying to keep this guy from dying from your negligence.” 

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Mariam Anwar, M.D. ~ Internal Medicine/Geriatrics

“On an Emirates flight the Flight Manager asked for my credentials and wouldn’t let me help. Let a white nurse help though without asking for her credentials. Of course I helped anyway. It was an elderly male with [emphysema] COPD exacerbation, hypoxic and also having an anxiety attack. We had to calculate if we would have enough oxygen to last the trip without having to land… would not make it if he needed more than baseline (5 Liters). The manager put him in business class and gave us seats too. We monitored him for several hours, he became unresponsive, hypertensive. I checked an EKG, glucose and after several sternal runs he woke up. Of course I lost several hours of sleep on a long flight and a flight attendant had to take care of my toddler while I assisted him. When his shift was over another manager came (he was Arab). He told me to go back to economy class and he let the white nurse stay in business class the entire flight! Blatant discrimination and lack of respect!”

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Susan Goldberg Cohen, M.D. ~ Internal Medicine/Palliative Care

“Had same issue on a plane when sick passenger was in row behind me but ‘Marcus Welby’ in tweed jacket ran from way back of plane…. Flight attendant admonished me for not taking my seat when there was a medical emergency in progress—ugh . . .”

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Amina Moghul, D.O. ~ Family Medicine

“Had something similar happen to me. A patient syncopized [fainted] right next to my seat. I identified myself as a physician and was pushed out of the way and told to step aside for an older white male RN to tend to the passenger. I was so stunned, I froze for a few seconds before politely introducing myself to the nurse as a physician and recommended we work together. The flight attendant continued to ignore me and direct questions and offers to get help or equipment to the male nurse. I thought it was just me that had experienced this…”

Ashley Denmark, D.O.

Ashley Denmark, D.O ~ Family Medicine

“On Delta 2215, a flight attendant requested over the intercom a doctor or nurse to report to front of cabin to assist a passenger. Without hesitation, I made my way and was greeted by two Caucasian women and a Delta flight attendant. I quickly asked, ‘What’s going on?’ Then I stated, ‘I’m a doctor. How can I help?’ Immediately, I was greeted by puzzled looks from all three women. The flight attendant asked, ‘Are you a doctor?’ to which I replied ‘Yes.’ My response only left a more puzzled look on the attendant’s face. She turned around and began to talk to another flight attendant. I stood there in bewilderment because someone on the plane was in need of medical assistance and no one was escorting me to the passenger in need. Finally, one of the Caucasian passengers who came to assist spoke and stated that she and the other passenger present to assist were both nurses. Then she asked, ‘Are you a doctor?’ to which I responded ‘Yes’ …..again. She immediately responded ‘Well you need credentials to show you are a medical professional.’ I gave a funny look but, remained composed and quickly quipped ‘I have my hospital badge which should be enough.’ The Delta flight attendant continued to look puzzled then stated, ‘We have two nurses here who came first. You can have a seat now and we will let them handle it. If we need more help we will come and find you.’ As I walked back I scanned the cabin. I looked for someone in distress, unresponsive wondering who was this person who needed help. At that moment the gravity of the situation hit me like a ton of bricks. Apparently the nurses and flight attendants didn’t think I was a doctor. Why else were nurses being allowed to take charge in a medical situation when a doctor was present?  Surely it couldn’t be the color of my brown skin? So here I was, the doctor with 11 years of training being asked to take a seat and not partake in caring for the passenger in need. As an African American female physician, I am too familiar with this scenario. Despite overcoming and excelling academically and obtaining the title of Dr. in front of my name, I still get side-eye glances when I introduce myself as Dr. Denmark. Commonly, I’m mistaken for an assistant, janitor, secretary, nurse, student, etc even when I have my white coat on.” Read more on Dr. Denmark’s Delta discrimination here.

Janelle Evans, M.D.

Janelle Evans, M.D. ~ Urogynecologist

“We were in the middle of the Atlantic on Delta Flight 200 to Johannesburg, South Africa, when a man had a GI bleed, hypotension, and became unresponsive in my aisle. Of the four physicians on board, only I had credentials with me and the purser denied the man care until one of us produced it. I am a urogynecologist and there was also an ICU physician, but she was told she could not help (she was Latina and similarly petite like me). I told her to ignore the purser and assist. While we worked to stabilize the patient, the purser would not put the lights on to start IVs and adequately see the medical kit. The kit was less than 1/2 stocked with no aspirin, no nitro, nothing. She tried to start drink service while we had a fully naked man in the walkway between lavatories and bloody stool all over one side of the plane. We successfully stabilized him and no sooner had we done so that she angrily declared that we were relieved of medical duty because she was going to deal with the in-flight phone physician rather than us. I had made it clear I wasn’t leaving the area and personally spoke with the ground doc who confirmed that his condition required in-flight assistance. I never heard from Delta until my article got published. It did not go viral like Dr. Cross, but they did call and comp our flight. I never received a thank you from the purser and left the plane with the patient, covered in bloody feces. In the aftermath, apparently the purser tried to cover it up and only reported it as a minor incident. My information was not included.”

Racism and sexism on airlines

Salma Elfaki. M.D. ~ Pediatrician

“In 2012, I experienced the same thing as Dr. Cross on a transatlantic flight. The flight attendant dismissed me initially and asked me to sit back at my seat as they needed a real doctor. At that point a black male acquaintance of mine (also a doctor) was being escorted back to the patient. He called me across the aisle to come help him. The flight attendant appeared shocked. She confirmed with him that I am indeed a doctor.  He told her, ‘She’s a pediatrician and a very good one.’ He proceeded to examine the patient and I requested their medical kit. Once I received it I got to work to see what I could use and took it from there with my colleague, an adult cardiologist. We were both able to work together and help the patient. They didn’t ask me for credentials, but clearly had to take a man’s word for it!”

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This article picked up by The Washington Post and also by TIME Magazine. As a result, now a policy change at Delta!

Pamela Wible, M.D., is a family physician who has offered medical care during 2 in-flight emergencies. Nobody ever asked for her credentials. They did offer a bottle of wine as a parting gift. She doesn’t drink.

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