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Pathological Perfectionism 101 (9 am PT) ~ Does a voice in your head keep saying you are not good enough? Do you spend evenings and weekends worrying about patients? Do you live in fear of making a mistake? Learn to calm your inner critic with inspiration from Dr. Drummond-Webb & guests. Four-week course meets: Jan. 5, 12, 19, 26 (90 min) $500. Register here.

Physician Peer Support (11 am PT) ~ Suffering from bullying, betrayal, exhaustion, medical mistakes, grief, guilt, anxiety, or suicidal thoughts? Forced into a PHP? Facing board investigation? We can help. (80 min) $97/mo. Register here.

Doctor Suicide Dream Team (1 pm PT) ~ Intimate group of physicians sharing our suicide attempts and survival. We discuss (hidden) reasons docs die by suicide & effective ways to end physician suicide now. View our free training. (60 min)  $97/mo. Register here.

Spiritual Self-Defense 101 (2 pm PT) ~ Are you an empath who has trouble saying no? Do people take advantage of your kindness? Do you feel used & abused? Learn how to prevent negative energy from entering your life with inspiration from Dr. Michelle Fernandez & guests. Four-week course meets: Jan. 5, 12, 19, 26 (90 min) $500 Jan. FULL. To join Feb. waiting list, contact Dr. Wible.

Business Mastermind (5 pm PT) ~ Master advanced business strategies for your ideal clinic, coaching, or consulting business (no medical license required). Must be Fast Track grad or own your independent practice. (60 min) $97/mo. Register here.

 ❤️  Confidential & curated by Dr. Wible. All healers welcome. ❤️

Emergency Retreats for Physicians

(Session nonrefundable once link shared)

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Dr. Jonathan Drummond-Webb Celebration (Highlight Reel) →

Enjoy our 45-min video highlights from our 6-hour celebration of life for Dr. Jonathan Drummond-Webb on the 20-year anniversary of his suicide. To view full version or join Sunday sessions on Dr. Drummond-Webb, contact Dr. Wible.

Highlight reel covers Christmastime suicides among 15 physicians (and 5 risk factors for doctor suicides during Christmas): tributes to Drs. Michelle Fernandez and Jonathan Drummond-Webb (both suicides early morning 12/26); discussion of Dr. Drummond-Webb’s suicide note; genesis of pathological perfectionism, emotional/spiritual causes of suicide, and words of wisdom from Jonathan’s widow, Dr. Lorraine DeBlanche ❤️.

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Red Flag Patients (fun video & checklist) →

After our boisterous business mastermind, I’m inspired to share how to identify (& care for) red flag patients. All true stories. Enjoy!

Patient not comfortable providing credit card, but totally fine with my finger on his prostate.

After rectal exam, elderly man says, “too bad we’re both married—we should date!”

Woman on 30 different supplements for aging.

Long list of allergies to all pain meds—except narcotics.

Badmouths all other docs, but loves me! (so I’m 2-weeks away from being on her shit list).

End of first visit, man asks if I’m okay with a hug. Two minutes later, I can’t get away.

Wants “everything” done today—cause it’s covered by insurance.

Goes to multiple pharmacies, in multiple states with scripts from multiple doctors.

Narcotics stolen again. But has police report with official logo for Birmingham UK police. We live in Alabama.

Stealing her kids Adderall.

On disability & drug contract (old doc never did pill counts). Used cocaine in past, but flies to Florida monthly, fancy jeans, gold jewelry.

New patient SO glad she found me. Wants a pelvic exam, I read her name on chart. She’s my boyfriend’s ex who just ripped rose bush out of his yard when they split up last month.

You take care of married Korean couple. Husband brings mistresses to physical.

😱 🤮 😳

More identification clues & checklist in our mastermind highlight reel below (along with practical solutions!). With strong boundaries & clear communication, we can properly care for these often delightful & truly fascinating people.

Jump on our physician business mastermind every Sunday 5 pm PT to master advanced business strategies for your ideal clinic, coaching, or consulting business (no medical license required). Must be Fast Track grad or own your independent practice. (60 min) $97/mo. Register here.

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Michelle Deserved Better →

It’s been a year since my friend Michelle killed herself on Christmas.

An emergency doc traveling the world helping anyone in need, Michelle died from lack of medical care—here in the US.

Asked why she became a doctor, she said “When I figured out what I was capable of and what the world needs, there was no other choice.”

She trained in NYC where her patients spoke > 130 languages. Nothing fazed her.

An adrenaline junkie, Michelle thrived working in crime-ridden inner cities to Iraqi war zones and Amazonian jungles—thousands are alive today because of her.

After surviving childhood sexual abuse, she devoted herself to the traumatized—finding “her people” in New Orleans dive bars, Oklahoma Native reservations, Iraqi gas stations, where she’d be hanging out speaking in Arabic.

In her free time Michelle was Caribbean night snorkeling, racing her sports car through narrow New Orleans streets.

Her friends called her “Hurricane Fernandez.” She lived life in the eye of the storm, yet shared love effortlessly—through handmade cards & jewelry—like this necklace she made me.

Michelle had well-managed depression and ADHD—until her doctor retired. Despite our help, she couldn’t find a new doctor to fill her meds. Hopelessly depressed, she shot herself in a park.

Months later, no obituary. So we wrote one & threw a party at her favorite bar.

Michelle gave with high integrity, yet she was repeatedly betrayed.

Michelle wanted care. No doctor wanted her.

Michelle wanted a burial. She was cremated.

Michelle wanted her estate donated to cat rescue. Her wish remains unfulfilled. Though her life insurance agent turned “beneficiary” is now flaunting lavish vacations pics with a young woman online So we just confronted him. 

If you hate this ending as much as we do, leave a comment: “Michelle deserved better.”


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Celebrating Jonathan Drummond-Webb, M.D. ❤️ →

On the 20-year anniversary of his death, we honor the surgeon who healed the tiniest hearts ❤️  Free virtual celebration 12/26/24.

Dr. Drummond-Webb: His Life & Legacy

Suicide by Perfectionism: An Exploration of Childhood Wounds

Free event hosted by Drs. Lorraine DeBlanche (his widow) and Pamela Wible.

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Suicide by Perfectionism: An Exploration of Childhood Wounds →

Jonathan Drummond-Webb Perfectionism

Recently a doc told me he got promoted to chief of pediatrics. “I’ve achieved all my goals.” He paused. “Only thing left is to donate my organs.”

I run a suicide helpline. I’ve heard these words before.

Even in death, the selfless physician strives to save lives. All but one’s own.

Selfless from Old English self+leas means “without one’s own person.” Loss of self begins long before physical death. Perfectionists master the art of self-annihilation in childhood.

Like the small-town valedictorian turned Ivy League M.D., Ph.D. Brilliant cardiologist. Happy marriage. Great mom. Marathon runner. Best in class at everything.

Always smiling.

Her death “completely unexpected.”

No mention of suicide in her obituary.

Whispers of a divorce, an eating disorder as a child, parents punishing her if she made less than 100 on tests.

“Child abuse is still sanctioned—indeed, held in high regard—in our society as long as it is defined as child-rearing,” says psychologist Alice Miller who writes of the tormented child yearning for parental love through overachievement.

They do well, even excellently, in everything they undertake; they are admired and envied; they are successful . . . but behind all this lurks depression, feelings of emptiness and self-alienation, a sense that their life has no meaning. These dark feelings will come to the fore as soon as the drug of grandiosity fails, as soon as they are not “on top,” not definitely the “superstar” or whenever they suddenly get the feeling they have failed to live up to some ideal image . . . Then they are plagued by anxiety or deep feelings of guilt and shame. What are the reasons for such disturbances of these competent, accomplished people?

Repressed memories are well-hidden under the thrill of academic conquest. Hoarding degrees, certificates, and diplomas an all-consuming addiction.

Physicians stay very busy “helping people.” Why?

I interrogated my physician parents. Separately (so they couldn’t cheat). Beyond “love science” and “help people,” I sought the real reason why they became doctors. Dad poured a glass of vodka and murmured, “So my mother would love me.” Mom’s face turned red as she spewed out, “I thought my mother would finally love me!”

Lost parental love can’t be recouped with a medical diploma.

So we shower patients with attention and love. Hoping for reciprocity from grateful surrogates.

Dr. Jonathan Drummond-Webb was the only child of hypercritical violent parents. They’d wake him at 4:00 am and throw him into an ice-cold shower at age two. His father kept repeating, “You are good for nothing!”

Petrified of becoming his dad, Jon had no children.

Jon’s patients were his kids. As chief of pediatrics and congenital heart surgery, he was their protector and savior.

Despite repairing complex defects in hearts the size of an adult’s thumb (with lowest mortality of all US pediatric surgeons at 1.8%), Jon couldn’t stop the voice of his inner critic, “I’m not good enough.”

Most would celebrate saving 98 of 100. He’d say, “I lost two out of 100.”

Competing in triathlons to stay in shape for surgery, Jon set a frenetic pace performing triple the yearly cases of his peers.

“I have a bit of an extreme personality. What I do demands ultimate perfection.”

At the pinnacle of his career, after implanting the first successful pediatric heart pump, Jon barricaded himself inside his home study on Christmas then overdosed on pain meds and alcohol.

An organ transplant advocate, Jon was unable to donate his own organs.

His physician wife said he had no signs of depression.

Jonathan Drummond-Webb baby 325 grams

A 325-gram baby he operated on weeks before his suicide.

Haunted by the few who died, Jon penned a five-page profanity-laden suicide note blaming the US medical system and naming incompetent staff. “These people don’t care! I have a gift to save babies. The world is not ready for me.”

Jon’s final words—a longing to reunite with his dead parents.

“I am going home!!! To my mom and dad!”

What do these three doctors have in common?

The chief of pediatrics, the brilliant cardiologist, and the congenital heart surgeon all felt unloved as children. So they “killed off” their true selves to play the perfect trophy child in hopes of one day (maybe upon death) feeling loved by mom and dad.

Childhood abuse fueled their professional success.

And choice of specialty.

Helping helpless children.

Fixing broken hearts.

❤️‍🩹

VIDEO: Dr. Jonathan Drummond-Webb: His Life & Legacy

Pamela Wible, M.D., is a suicidologist who offers peer support, weekly retreats, and a suicide helpline for physicians.

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